G&L L-2000 CLF

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G&L L-2000 CLF

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I am really a single-coil guy, but when I saw this, I just had to snatch this up. BEHOLD!!

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The final cost, after tax and shipping, was $1505.44. Maybe too much. Maybe a good deal. I really don't know. There is an older, nice-looking, 3-bolt L-2000 on Reverb for about $1600 that has been listed for a while. And who knows if these will be available at all anymore. I figured that if there was something wrong with it, or I really didn't like it, I could always return it. I was willing to eat the $20.24 shipping to try, especially considering that it is a CLF.

Firstly, I was pretty excited that it came with the original hard case. That wasn't in the listing, so I didn't expect that at all.

Then I opened the case:

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I was absolutely delighted with what I saw. Gorgous. Stunning. Beautiful. I love the color. I love the grain. And, guys, let me tell you: I can't find a mark on it. It was listed as "excellent" condition, but I didn't trust that for a second (Guitar Center used listings, you know?). But it really is in excellent condition. I can't find a scratch on it. I was stunned. I was thrilled. I still am. I was expecting some kind of wear or blemishes. Something. I wouldn't have been surprised if the thing looked like it had been on tour for years. I feel bad for the previous owner. He must have bought it then immediately needed some quick cash. The poor guy couldn't have gotten more than $600 from them for this beautiful instrument.

Guitar Center slacked the strings. I don't know if I believe in that or not. It seems like you are just exchanging string tension for truss rod tension. It probably doesn't even matter. I would love to know your thoughts.

Anyway, I tuned it and plugged it in, and it was ready to go. I didn't have to adjust anything. It played great right out of the case. All of the electronics work perfectly. The quality is excellent. It is right up there with my MJ-4, which is A+. No sharp fret ends or anything. It even has a quarter-sawn neck:

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The only thing that gave me pause was the fretboard. For Rosewood, it looked all ashy, like it was very dried out or something. I even thought maybe it is something other than Rosewood. But, upon further inspection, I am now convinced that it is Rosewood, and that there was a finish on it that the previous owner decided he didn't like, and chose to sand off. You can see in the picture below that above the nut, the fretboard has that finished, "wet" look, whereas the rest of the fretbaord has that unfinished, dry, sanded look. The difference is much more stark in person than what the pictures capture.

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In light of that, I am surprised that the previous ownder didn't sand the back of the neck. It is still gloss. I would think that if he wanted a smoother feel, he would have tackled the back of the neck before going after the fretboard. Maybe he intended to, and just never got around to it.

He did a good job of it, all-in-all, but he missed some spots on the E-string side around frets 9-12.

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No matter. Tomorrow, I will get out my trusty, 10-year-old bottle of Howard Feed-N-Wax and give it a good conditioning and make it look like new. I will use opportunity to adjust the intonation on the G and D strings, which are just a tiny bit flat. That will also give me an opportunity to make sure the set screw and spacer are still in the bridge. If they are missing, I will try to order replacements, if I can. I would also like to order replacement build sheets, but, who knows if anyone is there to answer the phones. :(

All in all, I have to say that this experience with Guitar Center used gear has been a 5/5.

Thanks, Paulo!
Gilmourisgod wrote:I never really "got" what a Rick is capable of until I ran it stereo a few times in my college band. We used to call it the "Piano of Doom". You get all the bottom and all the top in total a**kicking mode.
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Re: G&L L-2000 CLF

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Congrats!

As a single-coil guy, you should look into the K-mod, which lets you use a singel coil from each pickup.

I did the mod myself and I wouldn't say it was easy, but it wasn't terribly difficult. Mainly the challenge was the super messy the stock wiring. But that was a tribute.

After the mod, single-coil was my favorite mode.
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Yeah, I may do that. I had the thought that if I were to do that, I may not even need my MJ-4 any longer. :lol:

I definitely won’t be doing that myself, though. I have zero soldering skills. I have seen videos where the guy is like, “okay, tin the tip here, touch the wire to the iron and then add the solder… “ *tap tap tap* and he is done in seconds and it looks great. Meanwhile, the tip of my iron looks like crap and I spend ten minutes to get one cold joint. :lol:
Gilmourisgod wrote:I never really "got" what a Rick is capable of until I ran it stereo a few times in my college band. We used to call it the "Piano of Doom". You get all the bottom and all the top in total a**kicking mode.
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Re: G&L L-2000 CLF

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That is absolutely stunning. I love Tobacco Burst finishes too. :D

Are electronics in the CLF any different than G&L's standard L2000?
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Re: G&L L-2000 CLF

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The electronics are the same, as are the bridge and tuners. The only differences are cosmetic. They are:

1) The CLF electronics cavity is top-routed and covered with the metal plate like a Jazz bass, whereas the standard is rear-routed.

2) The CLF has the, “Lawsuit” headstock. Supposedly, this is the original headstock shape that G&L wanted to use for their instruments, but Fender (the company) took legal action, or at least threatened to take legal action against G&L for the headstock shape, claiming it be too similar to the Fender headstock shape. So G&L changed their shape. That’s how G&L instruments ended up with the “Bottle Opener” headstock.

Maybe you already knew all of that. :lol:
Gilmourisgod wrote:I never really "got" what a Rick is capable of until I ran it stereo a few times in my college band. We used to call it the "Piano of Doom". You get all the bottom and all the top in total a**kicking mode.
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Re: G&L L-2000 CLF

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Howard Feed-N-Wax is the stuff, guys! Check out what it did for this fretboard:

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Gilmourisgod wrote:I never really "got" what a Rick is capable of until I ran it stereo a few times in my college band. We used to call it the "Piano of Doom". You get all the bottom and all the top in total a**kicking mode.
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Re: G&L L-2000 CLF

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Fantastic! Looks great. I would have thought it would require a stain to darken it, but the Howard's does that on its own?
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Re: G&L L-2000 CLF

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It doesn’t darken it by itself, no. It just conditions the wood and gives it a finish to bring out the natural color of the wood. Like if you have ever seen those wood turning videos on YouTube, when wood gets sanded it gets all pale and ashy, but when a finish gets applied, even a transparent finish, the colors really pop. That’s what the Feed-N-Wax does. I’m sure Lemon oil or Lindseed oil or F-ONE or what-have-you would have done the same.

But, since you brought it up, my favorite way to clean and condition Rosewood is to use Naptha to clean it then Howard Feed-N-Wax to condition it. I saw a guy on YouTube do that many years ago when I was first learning about it, and it has worked wonders for me since.

I didn’t clean this fretboard with Naptha though, because that stuff is serious and I was pretty sure the fretboard didn’t need any cleaning, and mostly because I didn’t want to risk drying it out any more than it already might have been.
Gilmourisgod wrote:I never really "got" what a Rick is capable of until I ran it stereo a few times in my college band. We used to call it the "Piano of Doom". You get all the bottom and all the top in total a**kicking mode.
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Re: G&L L-2000 CLF

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Well, Tim, I partially took your advice about the K-mod. I did what I am calling a “C-mod”, which is a half-assed K-mod. I did a little bit of digging and a fair bit of thinking (which I am not really good at), poked around with my meter, and I was able to install a couple of temporary jumpers to bypass the inner coils:

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I was rather surprised at the results. Before I did this, I honestly wondered if I would end up not having a use for any other bass except for this (and my Ricks). But, when I tried it out, it sounded like a Jazz, but it didn’t sound quite Jazzy enough for my liking. This surprised me because the samples I have watched on YouTube, especially the video by Ed Friedland, really nailed the Jazz bass sound.

https://youtu.be/yGVgEVQuu3c?si=htLcf0TDDZqnR9XA

Maybe the way I installed the jumpers wasn’t quite right, but I can’t think of what I did incorrectly.

So, for now, at least, I have decided to not pursue the K-mod.
Gilmourisgod wrote:I never really "got" what a Rick is capable of until I ran it stereo a few times in my college band. We used to call it the "Piano of Doom". You get all the bottom and all the top in total a**kicking mode.
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Re: G&L L-2000 CLF

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Fair enough!

And yeah, I wouldn't say single-goil mode gets you a jazz tone. If it did, I probably wouldn't like single-coil mode so much :D
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Re: G&L L-2000 CLF

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Congrats!
I too would assume it wouldn't sound like a JB. Different pickups, a lot hotter, different pickup position, electronics and so on. Maybe close to a JB yes! I personally would prefer humbuckers.
Good thing is you did it and now you know what to expect! :P :D
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